Guards on convict ships

[Evelyn Wiseman]

Where do I search to find out the names of guards and their families on a convict ship. In particular I am looking for a James Molloy on the ship Fairlie in 1852 to VDL. He is in the surgeon's journal as sick. There is also a child of a guard sick with same surname Molloy. I want to see a list of who the guards were and what family travelled with them to see if it they are father and daughter. He was not a soldier, he had been discharged from the army the year before but I understand some signed up as guards (or as he says in his words he was a policeman) for their passenger to be paid for as they immigrate to the Australian area. Apart from the surgeon's journal I can find no other records about him. Hopefully there are some out there I just don't know where to look.
Thanks

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Subject: Guards on convict ships

Where do I search to find out the names of guards and their families on a
convict ship. In particular I am looking for a James Molloy on the ship
Fairlie in 1852 to VDL. He is in the surgeon's journal as sick. There is
also a child of a guard sick with same surname Molloy. I want to see a list
of who the guards were and what family travelled with them to see if it they
are father and daughter. He was not a soldier, he had been discharged from
the army the year before but I understand some signed up as guards (or as he
says in his words he was a policeman) for their passenger to be paid for as
they immigrate to the Australian area. Apart from the surgeon's journal I
can find no other records about him. Hopefully there are some out there I
just don't know where to look.

Hi Evelyn,

Suggest AUS-***@rootsweb.com could be a better place to ask and/ or
email TAS Archives


Bye

MargM NSW

[Evelyn Wiseman]

Thank you for suggestions will try them. I also have found that the Alexander Library here in Perth has 3 books that are available for viewing that may have lists of guards. Just have to make the trip as they are not for loan.

[Tony Burgoyne]

Hi Evelyn,

I can't answer your question, sorry, but where did you find the surgeon's journal? Is there an index somewhere?


My GGF was a ship's surgeon, arrived 1873 on the "Great Queensland".

Thanks
Tony

[Kate]

"Tony Burgoyne" wrote in message news:c10b6b15-fc6e-4d51-bf55-***@googlegroups.com...

Hi Evelyn,

I can't answer your question, sorry, but where did you find the surgeon's
journal? Is there an index somewhere?


My GGF was a ship's surgeon, arrived 1873 on the "Great Queensland".

Thanks
Tony

Tony

For Log of Logs, check out
http://zenodo.org/record/6901/files/LogofLogsVol1.pdf
opens as PFD. Search for a name.

Regards

Kate
Sydney, Australia

[Susie Zada via]

Hi Tony,

I was going to suggest Log of Logs but was so disappointed to see that
someone had scanned Vol 1 and put it on Zenodo for anyone to download.

This and the other volumes of Log of Logs are still under copyright and I
hate seeing all of that dedicated work being put there for open access.

This obviously wasn't done by the author or his descendants since his death
[which certainly wasn't so long ago that it is now out of copyright] - if it
was done "officially" they would have included the other volumes.

Regards ... Susie Z

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"Tony Burgoyne" wrote in message news:c10b6b15-fc6e-4d51-bf55-***@googlegroups.com...

Hi Evelyn,

I can't answer your question, sorry, but where did you find the surgeon's
journal? Is there an index somewhere?


My GGF was a ship's surgeon, arrived 1873 on the "Great Queensland".

Thanks
Tony

Tony

For Log of Logs, check out
http://zenodo.org/record/6901/files/LogofLogsVol1.pdf
opens as PFD. Search for a name.

Regards

Kate
Sydney, Australia


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[Kate]

Susie

All three of the volumes are online and can be downloaded, so perhaps
whoever has right of publication has now made this possible.

Tony might like to search online
https://zenodo.org/record/6901#.VzK3QblXpdg

Regards

Kate
Sydney, Australia


"Susie Zada via" wrote in message news:***@rootsweb.com...

Hi Tony,

I was going to suggest Log of Logs but was so disappointed to see that
someone had scanned Vol 1 and put it on Zenodo for anyone to download.

This and the other volumes of Log of Logs are still under copyright and I
hate seeing all of that dedicated work being put there for open access.

This obviously wasn't done by the author or his descendants since his death
[which certainly wasn't so long ago that it is now out of copyright] - if it
was done "officially" they would have included the other volumes.

Regards ... Susie Z

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Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2016 12:17 PM
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Subject: Re: Guards on convict ships



"Tony Burgoyne" wrote in message news:c10b6b15-fc6e-4d51-bf55-***@googlegroups.com...

Hi Evelyn,

I can't answer your question, sorry, but where did you find the surgeon's
journal? Is there an index somewhere?


My GGF was a ship's surgeon, arrived 1873 on the "Great Queensland".

Thanks
Tony

Tony

For Log of Logs, check out
http://zenodo.org/record/6901/files/LogofLogsVol1.pdf
opens as PFD. Search for a name.

Regards

Kate
Sydney, Australia


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[Susie Zada via]

Hi Kate,

Thanks for that info - I must say I'm still surprised as there was talk of
compiling Volume 4 from his research notes after his death.

Regards ... Susie Zada

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Subject: Re: Guards on convict ships

Susie

All three of the volumes are online and can be downloaded, so perhaps
whoever has right of publication has now made this possible.

Tony might like to search online
https://zenodo.org/record/6901#.VzK3QblXpdg

Regards

Kate
Sydney, Australia


"Susie Zada via" wrote in message news:***@rootsweb.com...

Hi Tony,

I was going to suggest Log of Logs but was so disappointed to see that
someone had scanned Vol 1 and put it on Zenodo for anyone to download.

This and the other volumes of Log of Logs are still under copyright and I
hate seeing all of that dedicated work being put there for open access.

This obviously wasn't done by the author or his descendants since his death
[which certainly wasn't so long ago that it is now out of copyright] - if it
was done "officially" they would have included the other volumes.

Regards ... Susie Z

-----Original Message-----
From: genanz-***@rootsweb.com [mailto:genanz-***@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of Kate via
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2016 12:17 PM
To: ***@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: Guards on convict ships



"Tony Burgoyne" wrote in message news:c10b6b15-fc6e-4d51-bf55-***@googlegroups.com...

Hi Evelyn,

I can't answer your question, sorry, but where did you find the surgeon's
journal? Is there an index somewhere?


My GGF was a ship's surgeon, arrived 1873 on the "Great Queensland".

Thanks
Tony

Tony

For Log of Logs, check out
http://zenodo.org/record/6901/files/LogofLogsVol1.pdf
opens as PFD. Search for a name.

Regards

Kate
Sydney, Australia


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[Tony Burgoyne]

Thanks all for your help

[Kate]

"Evelyn Wiseman" wrote in message news:47ec2a02-d001-4dfd-8ae4-***@googlegroups.com...

Where do I search to find out the names of guards and their families on a
convict ship. In particular I am looking for a James Molloy on the ship
Fairlie in 1852 to VDL. He is in the surgeon's journal as sick. There is
also a child of a guard sick with same surname Molloy. I want to see a list
of who the guards were and what family travelled with them to see if it they
are father and daughter. He was not a soldier, he had been discharged from
the army the year before but I understand some signed up as guards (or as he
says in his words he was a policeman) for their passenger to be paid for as
they immigrate to the Australian area. Apart from the surgeon's journal I
can find no other records about him. Hopefully there are some out there I
just don't know where to look.
Thanks


Hi Evelyn

I found the reference to James Molloy and others being ill on board
"Fairlie" but no reference to a child of that name. Where did you find it?

I found another record, highly likely for your your James but incorrect
spelling, James MOLLY is a passenger on board the "Yarra Yarra" (arrived
from England on "Fairlie") sailing from Launceston to Melbourne 1 Oct 1853.
http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=8

Regards

Kate
Sydney, Australia